Converse CTAS Pro High Suede Shoe, Black Size:US 12 Reinforced thumb hole and palm

Reinforced thumb hole and palm increase longevity

The VM003 has a slightly tighter top line measurement (where you stick your foot in) and yes

Ribbed Crew Neckline

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It has a force shield reinforced upper with a Foam Lite 2 molded EVA footbed

Converse CTAS Pro High Suede Shoe, Black Size:US 12 Reinforced thumb hole and palmLarger fit, select a size smaller Features: High top, rubber backed suede skate shoe with suede toe cap for durability Converse CONS tongue label, license plate, and star ankle patch Elasticated tongue helps lock it in place; Poly cotton laces add durability CX Foam sockliner for impact protection CONS traction rubber outsole